Comments on: Principles of a liberal http://www.sleptlate.org/2009/08/16/principles-of-a-liberal/ One free adverb with every purchase! Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Joel http://www.sleptlate.org/2009/08/16/principles-of-a-liberal/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Joel Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:19:27 +0000 http://www.sleptlate.org/?p=108#comment-75 "Don't Think of an Elephant" is the "playbook" that has come out of the much *much* larger body of work. Moral Politics is the thesis behind DTOAE and well worth the time reading it. 2/3 is dedicated to apolitical exploration of the two "sides" moral frameworks that guide them and the last third is really Lakoff's personal view (as a progressive) about why the conservative framework is flawed and how to "pitch" progressive ideas to the centre :) Keep up the good work :) “Don’t Think of an Elephant” is the “playbook” that has come out of the much *much* larger body of work. Moral Politics is the thesis behind DTOAE and well worth the time reading it. 2/3 is dedicated to apolitical exploration of the two “sides” moral frameworks that guide them and the last third is really Lakoff’s personal view (as a progressive) about why the conservative framework is flawed and how to “pitch” progressive ideas to the centre :)

Keep up the good work :)

]]> By: Zach Musgrave http://www.sleptlate.org/2009/08/16/principles-of-a-liberal/comment-page-1/#comment-74 Zach Musgrave Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:27:17 +0000 http://www.sleptlate.org/?p=108#comment-74 All I've read of his is Don't Think of an Elephant. Thanks for the tip! All I’ve read of his is Don’t Think of an Elephant. Thanks for the tip!

]]> By: Joel http://www.sleptlate.org/2009/08/16/principles-of-a-liberal/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Joel Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:46:16 +0000 http://www.sleptlate.org/?p=108#comment-73 I found your blog via your brother Alex. I'm sure you've read it but if not "Moral Politics: How Conservatives and Liberals Thinkg" by George Lakoff. He further explores the underlying world view that leads Conservatives to build up a "my view is absolute - any challenge to a part is a challenge to the whole" set of values. I found your blog via your brother Alex.

I’m sure you’ve read it but if not “Moral Politics: How Conservatives and Liberals Thinkg” by George Lakoff. He further explores the underlying world view that leads Conservatives to build up a “my view is absolute – any challenge to a part is a challenge to the whole” set of values.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.sleptlate.org/2009/08/16/principles-of-a-liberal/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Bryan Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:15:19 +0000 http://www.sleptlate.org/?p=108#comment-53 Very well put. But which "natural laws" are supposed to remain fixed over time? I can't think of a single one. For example: <b>- 330 BC.</b> The mass of an object determines its speed in freefall. <b>- 1600 AD.</b> The intrinsic "impetus" of an object determines its speed in freefall. <b>- 1687 AD.</b> The earth's gravitational force acting on an object determines its speed in freefall. <b>- 1916 AD.</b> The curvature of spacetime around an object determines its speed in freefall. <b>- 2050 AD.</b> Quantum gravity...? Of course, someone might reply that there has been just one <em>correct</em> natural law all along. In that case, we're just really, really prone to believing <em>incorrect</em> laws. Either way, the argument for immutable Republican principles looks grim. I wonder if they sell clothing to emperors, as well... Very well put. But which “natural laws” are supposed to remain fixed over time? I can’t think of a single one. For example:

- 330 BC. The mass of an object determines its speed in freefall.
- 1600 AD. The intrinsic “impetus” of an object determines its speed in freefall.
- 1687 AD. The earth’s gravitational force acting on an object determines its speed in freefall.
- 1916 AD. The curvature of spacetime around an object determines its speed in freefall.
- 2050 AD. Quantum gravity…?

Of course, someone might reply that there has been just one correct natural law all along. In that case, we’re just really, really prone to believing incorrect laws. Either way, the argument for immutable Republican principles looks grim. I wonder if they sell clothing to emperors, as well…

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